Working moms are often defined by their career achievements, pushed around by social pressures, and limited by stress at all fronts. This hinders them from living their authentic and sacred life. Dr. Tim Jordan interviews Julia Sewell, author of The Self-Made Mom, to discuss how they can define success and balance on their own terms and rediscover joy. She explains what it takes to get rid of the “good girl condition” and finally embark on a fulfilling self-making journey. Julia also explores how mothers should define their core values that will allow them to equip their children with the necessary skills to survive the real world.
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You can find Julia’s online support community at www.theselfmademom.com as well as information about her new book, The Self-Made Mom.
For more information about how to parent girls to grow up confident and powerful, read Dr. Jordan’s book, She Leads: A Practical Guide for Raising Girls Who Advocate, Influence, and Lead
Dr. Jordan’s new book is now an audio book: Keeping Your Family Grounded When You’re Flying By the Seat of Your Pants, revised and updated edition with an invaluable chapter on technologies, social media, and readiness signs for both https://drtimjordan.com
Amazon Book Link: Keeping Your Family Grounded When You’re Flying By the Seat of Your Pants
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Here’s How Working Moms Can Regain Balance and Joy With Julia Sewell
Welcome back to the show. I really appreciate you stopping by each week to listen to this show. I’m going to tackle a topic that I don’t really think I’ve tackled. I’ve talked about it in different ways, but not like directly. I’m going to talk about all the pressures and the stressors of working moms. Since I’m not a working mom, I decided to have an expert to guide us and talk about why it’s different today, the pressures, the stresses on working moms, and some ideas and some tools that you can use so that you can hopefully bring some more balance into your life and more joy as well.
The expert I’m talking about is Julia Sewell. She has a really nice online community called The Self Made Mom. She is also the author of a book that’s coming out anytime. Even as we speak, it’s on in the process of being published. It’s called The Self Made Mom as well. I think her community is really incredible for working moms. Julia Sewell is the founder of that community. She’s also a self-made mom herself. She’s an entrepreneur. She has three kids of her own. She has twins and, what is it, daughter?
Two daughters and a son.
She’s a performance coach. She has all these interesting coaching certifications. For the last dozen years or more, she has been guiding thousands of women to take more control of their lives. I think one of her missions, as I read on her site, is that she wants to help working moms regain their joy, which is, I think, a very important mission. Thank you so much, Julia, for being on the show.
Thank you for having me. I am so happy to be here.
Is there anything I missed in your intro that would be important for people to know about you or your expertise?
I think it’s important to mention that not only do I have experienced coaching working mothers to a high degree of performance in their personal and professional lives, which you learn so much through experience by interpreting and helping women travel their own paths. As you said, I’m doing that myself. I’m also married to a primary career holder, which matters. It is another level of intricacy to think through how we balance two primary careers in our household and three children, and a dog, all of those things.
That does add another layer of complexity to the conversation. I should add that. For those who it is important to, I’m a master performance consultant. I’m a certified coach, a certified master trainer. I’ve done a lot of work credentializing myself so that it is not just, “Here’s what I’ve experienced and you should do this too.” There is actual science behind this. There’s knowledge and learning, and that matters over time.
Julia Sewell, The Self-Made Mom
I wonder what’s different for today’s moms that may have been different than previous generations? Have you seen that in the women you’re coaching?
Certainly. I talk about this in my book. What is really happening is two things. The current working mother is navigating a work environment that was built for men. That’s not to disparage men. I love men. They’re absolutely fantastic, but workplaces were built for men. They welcome the talent of women and haven’t adjusted their structures. Women are trying to fit into a lot of workplace structures that don’t accommodate their needs.
That’s number one. We can talk about more of that in just a moment. Number two is that the working mother now has more exposure than ever with social media. There are eyes on everything that she’s doing and judgment from both sides. You’re not working enough, you’re not momming enough. She has more exposure as well as more isolation than ever. People aren’t functioning in the same community structures as they have before.
It takes a village is like a laughable statement now because we all live ten hours from our families and so on. We’re exposed, but we’re also alone. That creates this very difficult path to navigate for a working mother when she’s living really at the service of her job or her family and rarely remembers herself. There’s all of that cloudiness that comes from, “Everyone’s watching me, but I’m alone, and I don’t have a path. What does that mean for me as a working mother?”
Not every working mom, but on average, your moms are older when they start learning. They’re late 20s, early 30s, mid 30s, late 30s. They’re a different person than if they had their first kid when they were 22.
Which means that their career has been a huge part of their identity for much longer before they became a mother than ever before. The identity crisis that happens after you become a mother, if you do work, is dramatic. This re-identification of self is a bigger hill to climb when, for a decade and a half, say you have your first child at 35, which is not uncommon, and all you’ve known yourself to be is a working woman. All of a sudden, being a working woman, or working pills, in comparison to being a mother, or the imbalance, is impossible to navigate.
Those two things feel at war with each other. No longer can you do what you used to do at work to find self-actualization, and no longer can you finish a to-do list and find self-worth in that way, because the digitalist never ends once you’re a mom. There’s a lot of conflict that comes from the “I did what was right. I built my career first. That’s what we’re all told we’re supposed to do.” It makes it more difficult. That’s just all there is to it.
Identifying Your Core Values
You talk in your book about the need for working moms to develop real and sustainable intrinsic motivation. Talk about that for a moment. I thought that was a really important point.
Thank you. What I’m getting at with that theme in the book is to address the deep reactivity of being a working mother and the chasm that is created for any true hardcore set of personal values, any identity that is rooted in self, not others, any sustainable fuel sources for our lives. When you live in this reactive state, which happens so much for working mothers, work needs this, spouse needs this, kids need this, and I’m the person who provides all of those things.
Rarely do we remember, “Wait, hold on, I actually believe in this.” Subsequently, I should govern my choices that way. That just gets lost. You just forget. If you don’t have something to believe in and you don’t have fuel for those beliefs, motivation can be very hard to find. True confidence can be very hard to develop because the front-end work hasn’t been done.
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If I can say this, I think it’s probably true. I think this generation of young parents has gone through a parenting cycle that’s been very externally motivating. Rewards and bribes and praise and all that stuff. There’s been such an overemphasis on grades and top colleges and clubs, four teams and all that thing. When you’re out in the workforce, you probably get accolades for each achievement and all. It’s like you have this path, and all of a sudden you have a kid, and it’s like, “Where’s my audience? Where’s the applause?” All of a sudden, that self-confidence takes a big hit.
There is no confidence. There is no true inner confidence. It’s all extrinsically or externally affirmed and motivated. That’s really what the book is about is this self-making journey that a working mother can go on, where she doesn’t just find joy. That is a hundred percent the goal, but she also recaptures power, and she then begins to develop an intentional way of life to subsequently seek joy as the long-term result.
However, whatever word you want to use, that requires the establishment of a set of inner values and the ability to clap for yourself that most current working mothers have never established. We don’t know how to say, “This is what I believe in. I’m proud of the work I did toward that today, no matter what the external result was of that work.”
That’s what self-making is. Self-making is finding yourself and rooting in these deep beliefs and letting the opinions of others and the comparison game and all of that bounce off your brain because you are so convicted in your own path. I really struggled with the fluidity of my identity. I told my husband one time that after we had our twins, we had a singleton first, and then we had the twins, thank goodness. I told him that I felt like a puzzle piece that had gotten wet.
I was still this puzzle piece, but I no longer fit into my life, my previous life. How do you figure that out? I was the same, but different. Same in a million ways, different in a million ways. What I was verbalizing without knowing it to him was that I don’t have my own sense of self from which to fuel proactive choices, proactive boundaries, proactive moves in life. Everything is just happening to me. Which is, I mean, that is like a working mom’s day-to-day experience. All those things are happening to me, and I’m just responding. That is so depleting over time.
I also think I work with girls in my camps, retreats, and everything, grade school, middle school, and high school. I also counsel young women who are college age in their early twenties. One of the things that I’ve found is that a lot of the pressure and stress they face, even as girls as opposed to young women, is this sense that there’s this one path they’re all supposed to walk on. You go to college, you get good grades, you go out, you get a good job, you make a lot of money.
They’ve all been squished on that path. You’re supposed to lean into the top of your field, whatever that may be. I think if you don’t have that core you’re talking about, which is so important. It’s hard to know, “What is my path? What fits for me or what’s right for me?” I think a lot of end up on paths that don’t really fit for them.
You are a hundred percent correct. They should. “This is what I should be doing,” is the enemy of “This is what I want to do. This is what I love to do. This is the role that fulfills me.” You’re right that a woman who has previously been majorly career oriented, who then, after children, feels either less career oriented or wants to do it differently, to have maybe she want to become an entrepreneur and have more autonomy, whatever it is. There’s not really a lot of space to talk about that. Nobody really says, “It’s okay to dial it back while you have little kids. That’s great. Proud of you.”
They say, “Sorry, you have to dial it back while you had little kids.” There’s this negative connotation to that. When in fact, that woman is bravely stating her truth, and that takes so much courage. For her to get smacked around as a result of that courageous realization is unfortunate. That’s the thing that we have to change. We have to change the, I’m a career woman or I’m a mother. Those two things are at war with each other. I’m constantly trying to fight this balance.
What if we said, “I am a woman and part of my personal brand.” I know that’s a very business acumen type of term. “Part of my personal brand is I pursue excellence at work and I pursue excellence at home,” meaning in my mothering and my spousal, and my individual pursuits. “I have done the work to find the balance between those two things.” It absolutely does exist, but it doesn’t exist unless you are brave and you set boundaries and you establish your own core values. That’s the whole self-making journey is to decide, “What is my new personal brand? What do I need to do in my life to make that happen?”
What does excellence at home and at work mean for me?
For me, not for my workplace. All of that.
You’re a CEO or you’re making a lot of money. The culture has all kinds of ideas about what that means. I don’t think we’ve taught our young people, our kids, our young people to think for themselves and to do that. When they’re little kids, we don’t ask them enough questions about why do you like what they’re doing, or why do you want to do that, or what grades do you want, and why is that important to you. We don’t ask those kinds of questions. We plop them out into the world as adults, and they haven’t learned to talk or think for themselves or to access their intuition. We expect them to all of a sudden be this empowered person who’s making these choices and all that. We haven’t prepared them.
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They know where they should go. Again, should, have no idea what the steps are because it’s not really where they should go. It’s just this amorphous idea in the future of what I’ve been told to be, but I’m not connected to it. I have no drive to establish the steps to get there. I’m just lost. I’m just a lost child.
Undoing The Good Girl Condition
What do you do with women who are moms, who you’re working with in your community? How do you help them to bridge that gap so that now they are empowered and now they are thinking for themselves? How do you get them there?
It is formulaic. Not to take the warmth and the emotion out of it, but there are definitely skill sets and learnings that, when you take the time to bring them into your life, and I’ll reference some in just a moment. When you take the time to bring them into your life, they then become your norm. They become a toolkit you can access. You wear your tool belt around. You can access these tools when life kicks you around, and it gives you the confidence and courage to then go do what is right inside, no matter what everybody else is doing.
That’s the goal of self-making is to get to the point where you’re so convicted about the choices that you’re making for you for your family. You’ve done the work, and you are so convicted that it really doesn’t matter what the person over there is doing. You’re just happy for them that they’re doing it. That’s all.
How do you get them to into the good girl condition that says, “You should not disappoint people, you should please people.” I think that’s a big piece for women, right?
A 100%. Yes. The undoing involves reestablishing who you’re serving. Are you serving these external circumstances, or are you serving your truth? If you let truth be your boss, so to speak, your self-made truth, be your boss. It matters less. We are human. There will still be moments where you’re like, “That really hurt my feelings. That person’s conflicting opinion makes me feel uncomfortable.”
You go back to your values and you say, “I can live with that because I know I’m pursuing my long-term goals.” Some of the self-making tools and trainings and learnings that we do are, the very first thing I do is I let a woman express her pain in a really unfiltered way, “Sarah, tell me your pain,” whatever it is. She gets an opportunity to completely let that out, which there is nowhere else to do without judgment, completely let it out.
We say, “Now that’s that is out. First thing is to identify what your core values are as a person. You woman, what are your core values? Which women are never asked? Women are never asked. Men, all the time, are asked.” Stand up for these values, and women are said, “Adhere to your spouse’s values or workplace’s values or your family, your first family’s values.”
The good girl conditioning.
Correct. When I was growing up, if I didn’t have the same belief system as my family, that was a problem. If I were to express a conflicting belief to my husband, even in the world we live in today, people would go, “I don’t love that. That makes me feel uncomfortable.” You establish your personal set of core values. That’s the first step to recapturing your own power as a woman. You explore where your self-worth has landed. I would guess as a working mother, it’s landed in some places that are not appropriate.
The amount of things I can do every day, or how perfect my children are, or how much money I made last year, or any of the things that aren’t actually attached to the core values we just established. Self-worth is so extrinsically sourced for women. When those sources dry up or those sources aren’t available, we don’t know what to do. We cannot fuel ourselves. It’s very dangerous. A good example of that is that so many women are validation addicted.
It comes from there are positive reasons and negative reasons why, but if someone doesn’t affirm that you look beautiful or your work was hard enough or your kids are smart enough or whatever, you think I must be doing something wrong. Instead of saying, “My kids are exactly what I want them to be. I’m working exactly hard enough. I know what a win looks like for me, and I got that win today.” That thing. Those are the reestablishment of power techniques.
We talk about intention, living life in an intentional way. A lot of the intention practice is about rewriting truth into your life and letting your truth govern your choices. Instead of buying into the lies that you’re never going to be good enough, actually establish what good enough means for you and then give yourself the opportunity to live that way and prove to yourself that you are. That’s an example of that.
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Decreasing Your Decision Fatigue
We’re talking with Julia Sewell. She is the author of a book called The Self Made Mom, and she also has a really valuable online community called The Self Made Mom as well. I’ll give you guys the links, and she’ll give them to us now. I’ll put it in my show notes as well. We’re talking about working moms and how they can regain their lives. You will. I remember like a hundred years ago, I lost a little bit of my zest for what I was doing.
I remember one of my mentors, this is probably 30, 40 years ago, if I can say that. I was giving talks here, we were running retreats, and people would say, “You’ve changed my life. You’re so great.” It wasn’t landing anymore. It didn’t mean anything. He said, “Your problem isn’t what you’re doing, it’s why you’re doing it.” He said, “You need to shift your intention.” My intention was, I came from a background as a kid. I had seven siblings and a background.
One of my old issues was never being good enough. I had two older brothers just for a whole bunch of reasons. I was still trying to prove myself. I needed that external stuff to make me feel okay. I shifted my intention from all of that to being of service. Everything I did, I made sure that was the underlying intention. It made all the difference in the world.
I would guess that the women that you work with, when they take the time to look inward and say, “What is right for me? What are my core values? What is this about? What do I want?” That once they find that intention, one of the things that they will notice is that they’re a lot happier and they’re a lot lighter and they’re less stressed and less pressured, all those things. That would be one way for them to judge, “Am I on the right track?”
Yes, clarity is lightness. It’s simplicity. One of the things that working mothers deal with more than anything is decision fatigue. Decision fatigue greatly decreases when you know where you’re going and why. Why are you here? I really had an epiphany, might be the right word, that maybe that’s hyperbole, but an epiphany about the words sacrifice and service as it pertains to working mothers while I was writing the book.
What I realized was that we’ve mistaken service for sacrifice and, in some cases, for self-abandonment. It comes from a wonderful place. It comes from deep love and devotion. It comes from worthiness tied to things like work achievements. Those are pure. It is pure to want to serve your family. Without thought and without intention, that purity becomes tainted and turns into self-abandonment, which equals resentment and martyrdom.
A lot of the things that mothers eventually express in an ugly way. They just don’t know what else to do because they’ve gone way too far down this path. Myself included. It’s the way that I like to illustrate this. A visual imagery for my clients is to think of the Thanksgiving table that you set for your family. It is beautiful. It’s well thought out, and they are beloved. You’ve adjusted the menu. You’ve made sure everyone has their favorite beverage.
You’ve done it at the right time of day to suit, serve everyone. Walking up to the table and realizing that you didn’t even set yourself a seat at that table. Your beloveds are at the table, and you don’t even have a place to sit. I have goosebumps just saying that out loud, but that is what working mothers do. The self abandoning is a scary thing.
Ever since they were little girls, what was affirmed? Selfless service, other people’s needs are more important.
You take such good care of your brother, your sister. That’s it starts. Yes. I accidentally do it all the time. Even though I’m writing a book about it, I still do it to my daughters.
Living Your Sacred Life
I was going to ask you what women’s daughters learning if they watch their moms being stressed out and lacking confidence. I say this to girls today, especially girls who are working and who go to private schools. There’s this contagiousness of stress and pressure, like who’s the most stressed? There’s a competition for who stayed up the latest doing their homework. Who’s the most stressed out?” I also think that may be true with women in the workforce.
No question.
Their conversations are about, “I have no time. I’m so stressed.”
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Busyness is the currency. If you’re not overwhelmed and overworked, you must be doing it wrong. That is what we’re communicating to our daughters by showing them that every day. What happens, and this is not intentional, of course, but what happens is then the daughters begin to associate having a career and being a mother with inability to be excellent and subsequent negativity as a result.
“I will never be enough. I will always be stressed and service is negative, but I still have to do it if I’m going to be a value to this world.” My sacred life. When’s the last time a working mother who’s listening to you remembered that your life was sacred? My sacred life doesn’t matter as much as career ambition or serving my children or serving my partner or whatever it is. That sacred life gets put on pause.
I call it the sacrifice pause in the book. We talk a lot about it. You live in this misery gap of, “I really need more education to advance in my career, but I cannot do that because my partner has these big projects, and I must serve my children.” You just live in this on-pause state because you believe that if you don’t do that, if you don’t serve everyone else, they’ll get less, and you’ll be bad. That’s where it goes straight to, “I am bad.” That’s the sentence.
“I’m a bad girl.”
“I’m mad.”
It’s not funny, but I think I hear it all the time. I like the word sacred. One thing, the way we describe our circles at camp is like it’s a sacred space. It’s not a religious space at all. It’s a space where you can be real, be authentic, share your story, hear other stories, and realize I’m not the only one. I think a lot of women probably lack that. Although that’s probably one of the things that your online community does for them.
The ability to share and not be judged is one of the big offerings of the online community, but the ability to also connect and learn from peers, and connect and understand you’re not alone. Again, that exposure plus isolation is this swamp that a woman lives in all the time. No, you are not alone. I see you. What working moms really need is someone to say, “I see you. I see how hard you’re working. I see your deep depletion.
I also see your excellence. I see your talent. I see your beauty. I see your ambitions, not just your kids and not just your home, and not just your career achievement list. I see you.” That’s what we want to do in our community. In our retreats, we have retreats as well. These are three-day experiences where women come together and pull back all the curtains and rebuild themselves. They dump it. They dump the bad and pull in the good and leave a different version of themselves.
It’s wild. We’re going to do one in October this year, and it’ll be my eighth one. We’ve done a lot of these, and they are so transformative to the women that attend. We also have the safe self-making experience within the book movement, which is a coaching program. You get into it for a year, and you self make, you go through this powerful intention and joy journey. Joy is the ultimate goal. Being able to, which to me, joy is the experience of life that allows the bad just as much as the good, because you’re convicted, where you’re headed, you’re cool with, you’re confident enough to be able to handle discomfort.
When you allow your whole human experience to exist instead of just the good, that’s what joy means to me. Pursuing your life’s work, knowing where you’re headed, even if there are some bumps along the way, you’re confident enough to handle those. The goal is to create this. I struggled with using the word movement for a long time because women have been taught to self-deprecate, to appear humble. I thought, “There’s no way I’m qualified to create a movement. I am just some little lady over, and you whatever.” The truth is, yes, I am.
This movement needs to happen. Women need to have the ability to stop functioning at the highest level ever while being super depleted and have no joy. There is a map, and you go through the journey, and then you still get to function at a high level. Excellence is still there for you, but you do it differently with boundaries, with joy. Again, the sanctity of your life is real. It is worthy. You are worthy of this work. That’s what I say to my clients all the time, “You are worthy of this work.”
Necessary Skills In The Real World
We’re talking with Julia Sewell. I’m going to have her in just a moment. Give you the link to get hold of her. She’s the author of a book called The Self Made Mom and also a movement, an online movement community for moms to join to get support and to get also training and retreats. All kinds of information about helping them take more charge of their life. If you have time, I want to ask you one more question because something I read in your book reminded me of my mom.
My parents had some financial difficulties later in life, probably like when they were in their 50s, maybe early 60s. Anyway, so my mom had never worked outside the home. Obviously, there are eight kids. That was her job. Anyway, she ended up getting a job in a hardware store. One of the things you talk about in your book is transferable skills. They put her in the aisle that had all the nuts and bolts, and she organized that aisle like there’s no tomorrow.
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It was clean and organized, and all the things were in the right place because she thought she had no skills. She had no self-confidence because she went from high school to pregnant, which was not uncommon at that time. She never really had been out in the world to gain a sense of “What’s my worth, or what are my skills?” I think there’s probably a lot of women, not just my mom, who don’t really acknowledge within themselves that they have more skills and more experience that are really applicable out in the real world.
Yes. Mothering prepares you for so many different ways you work in the world. She was the perfect person to organize that nuts and bolts aisle because she actually understood how you might use them, how you approach a project, and how to do it efficiently, because she had a kid, so everything had to be efficient. She was the perfect person to do that.
Book knowledge would have meant nothing in that moment. How to use this actually meant that the transferable skills reference is a mechanism for building confidence that we talk about in the book. As one of the four builders of confidence, you can acknowledge the transferable skills that you have from all of the previous jobs and lives you’ve led that got you to where you are, but we forget, I call it transferable skills amnesia, where you just like, “Boop,” lose everything in your head because you’re intimidated by a circumstance.
That’s the reference here. Yes, I think that women are unwilling to overstate their capabilities and most often understate their capabilities just out of a sense of humility or perhaps fear of being judged or something like that. In that case, your mom was more than capable of doing that job and every other job in that hardware store, I’m sure. She didn’t have proof. She had never written down a list for herself of the proof that she had that she could do this work, which is one of the things that we do as we self-make, is we write down proof. We keep track of it, make a list.
Developing Solutions And The Deep Power Of Micro Impact
Before I let you go, you’ve had a lot of training yourself to get to where you are and to be able to do what you do. I’m just curious. What’s one of the most important things that you learned about you along the way? For me, shifting my intention was one big piece that really helped me a lot. I’m just curious, what’s a moment for you from a mentor, an experience that really helped you shift into a different gear?
Can I say two answers? The first answer is, I know.
Powered women.
I know, we got to say some things. We have words to say. The first answer was when I went into a mentor’s office, just a big old mess at work one time, defeated and disappointed in my own performance. I went in there with this steadfast conclusion that I couldn’t do it, and I was so bad. He said, “Hold on, let’s just ask some questions. Let’s just look at this through a logic lens for a minute.” I had never as a woman being coached to think like that before, to think logically, to say like, “Stop for one minute and let’s just ask some questions about the circumstances surrounding how you feel.
What is reality here instead of just how you feel? What could the solutions be? Have you tried to brainstorm?” The answer was no, of course. I was just upset. That helped me shift and welcome in this idea of using logic and business acumen to apply to our overwhelmingly crazy lives, and so that we can sort and organize and find solutions. What working mothers need is a solution.
Sometimes that solution is to develop core values. Sometimes it’s exit an environment that isn’t right for you. There’s everything in between, but a solution, thinking that through made a huge difference, allowing myself to do that, made a huge difference in my life. The second shift in my thinking was to understand the deep power of the micro-impact. I have had moments in my career where I have thought to myself, “I’m just talking to one person at a time. Is it really that meaningful?”
Even though it adds up to thousands and thousands, is it really that meaningful to just coach one person? Over time, I’ve seen that one person talks to one person, then they talk to one person, and the movement begins from these micro impacts. By the way, what if micro impacts are why I’m here? What if my job is to change one woman’s life per day?
Not only does that add up, but it’s really special to think about getting to change one person’s life through one conversation. The word micro has a diminishing type of connotation, but that’s not diminished at all. That’s a big deal. Accepting that micro impact, micro conversations, and micro change were going to be the way that I made an impact on this world was a huge shift in thinking for me in my career.
It’s good enough.
Totally good enough.
More than enough.
It’s so good. Is so rewarding to have that woman pick up the phone a year later and say, “You really changed me.” That is what I’m doing. Yes.
Get In Touch With Julia
How can people get a hold of you so you can change their lives as well?
You can find all the things. Community, the self-making experience, the retreat, access to the book, all of these things will be at TheSelfMadeMom.com. Our community is free, so you can join our online community. I recorded a digital masterclass on there, which is so much knowledge that you can learn on your own time. You can participate in our bi-weekly mom meetups, which are live coaching sessions with me. You can communicate with other women all for free. When you do that, then of course you’ll hear about when the book comes out and when we have retreats and things like that. That’s where you go first is go to TheSelfMadeMom.com and join the community, and just start. That’s all you have to do.
Sometime, hopefully next month or so, your book will actually come out, and they can read the whole book.
The digital masterclass is really the book in a video. If you really want to get that information now, go watch that digital masterclass on the community. It’s just really me speaking it in a video to you. All of our social handles are The Self Made Mom on all of the different platforms. It’s all the same on those, too.
Thank you so much for joining the show. I appreciate your input and your knowledge. I think it’s really helpful for moms who have heard this, and hopefully, they will not only listen to it but pass it on and/or listen to it with their daughters if their daughters are old enough. We’ve been talking to Julia Sewell, and her website is TheSelfMadeMom.com. You can go there and find out all the things that she’s been talking about and the different programs that she runs. Thank you again so much for coming and embracing your daughters. Good luck to you. You’re doing great work.
Thank you. It was just utterly enjoyable to be here. I loved it.
Important Links
- Julia Sewell on LinkedIn
- The Self Made Mom
- The Self Made Mom on Instagram
- Keeping Your Family Grounded: When You’re Flying By the Seat of Your Pants
About Julia Sewell
As a performance coach with decades of experience, Julia has impacted thousands of women and wants to impact your life too. She has “been there”, and her clients appreciate her vulnerable and direct approach to creating a life that is sustainable, joyful and high performing. Julia is the founder of The Self Made Mom and author of the book by the same name, Julia specializes in coaching working mothers and focuses her time and talent on helping these women rediscover their power, intention and joy.
Her certifications include:
- Master Performance Consultant®: Association for Talent Development
- Certified Master Trainer and Certified Coach: Northwestern Mutual
- Women in Leadership Certificate: Cornell University
- Author: The Self Made Mom
- Mother of three